6 Intriguing Myths About Old Souls

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Solitary, philosophical and wise beyond their years, the Old Soul, just like any social oddity, tends to be mislabeled, and misunderstood by a society that fails to see the beauty of its own kind.

Walking through life as a social outsider, the Old Soul can find his matured temperament and outlook on life questioned and criticized.

This article will explore 6 common 'myths' associated with the Old Soul temperament, in hopes of broadening the understanding of popular, but misguided perceptions.

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For more information on Old Souls, and whether you're one or not, see this Old Soul article.

6 Myths About Old Souls


Myth #1:  Old Souls are lazy deadbeats. 
Truth:  We long for simple and uncomplicated lives.

old soulsMany Old Souls don't see eye to eye with society.  Wealth, material possessions and social statuses have no importance or allure to the Old Soul because they are seen as transient and momentarily fulfilling.

Why waste time complicating life with academic degrees, workplace competition and continuous debt when life can be lived simply and calmly?  This is why many Old Souls opt to work in unimportant, low-paying jobs, or decide not to work at all.

If money is the root of all evil, why let your life revolve around it?  In this situation, the Old Soul prefers to sit back, relax and smell the roses of life.

Myth #2:  Old Souls are asocial misanthropes.
Truth:  We tend to be quiet and solitary.solitary old souls

As pointed out in my other Old Soul article, many Old Souls tend to be solitary and/or loners by nature.  Understandably, this character quirk can be perceived very negatively by a society that values social stimulation and extroversion.

Old Souls tend to prefer their own company because only in solitude can they come to think their best thoughts, write their best works, and create their best creations.  It is the Old Souls thirst for spiritual self-actualization that fuels their need to be alone.

People, often, can become distractions and hang-ups on their inner quests for meaning and fulfillment.

Myth #3:  Old Souls are pretentious know-it-alls.
Truth:  We were born with a matured perspective of life.old souls

Young Old Souls in particular, are met with a lot of judgement when they stay true to their authentic selves.

What person, especially middle aged or old, wants to listen to a kooky looking young man or woman talking about the meaning of life.  Especially if they're dressed in what appears to be their grandparents clothing!

Understandably, many young Old Souls are measured against what is "normal" for their age, and end up falling short of societal expectations.  Thus come negative perceptions that Old Souls are "affected", "artificial" or "conceited".

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Myth #4:  Old Souls are mentally defective.
Truth:  We like taking our time to do things properly.old souls

I thank Facebook's Old Soul Group for sharing their experiences which inspired this myth.

These experiences, as well as my own, have shown that Old Souls as a whole tend to be very meticulous.  Their sensitivity and care for the world tends to make them take extra time to complete tasks.

Old Souls show their care and commitment by the amount of time they invest in people and projects.  Unfortunately, this can make them "slow" in the workplace, making them seem inept and unintelligent compared to their faster-paced colleagues.

Myth #5:  "Old Soul" is a word made up by insecure or arrogant people trying to be unique.
Truth:  "Old Soul" is a word used to describe the feeling of being old in mind and heart.old soul

Understandably, there are a few skeptics that try to rationalize "how can you measure the age of a soul?  This stuff is mumbo-jumbo".

Regardless of whether you believe in the reincarnation Soul Age theory linked with this group of people, being an Old Soul is specifically and exclusively a feeling felt by different groups of individuals.  This feeling, which can't be effectively analyzed by the conscious mind, is a subconscious sensation of "just knowing things", "having been here before", and "feeling matured and mentally aged".

Old Souls don't feel that they're any better than other people, nor do they necessarily feel insecure.  The term is simply used to describe what they feel inside.

Myth #6:  Old Souls are aloof and cold.
Truth:  We tend to have a detached, yet sensitive outlook on life.old soul

If all things are passing - good and bad, people and possessions - what's the point of becoming too attached to anything?

Many friends, lovers and family members are surprised by the Old Soul's disconnection from the cares of the world.  Understandably, this can be unsettling, even a little upsetting for some.  However, the Old Soul still maintains a sensitivity that few understand, and often display traits that can be linked to the Empath.

Still, the Old Soul, a perpetual observer of life, tends to have a "been there, done that" mentality, that many, including even the Old Soul himself, finds puzzling.  Backstabbing, gossiping, fighting, as well as addictions, money issues and other day to day problems rarely affect Old Souls.

As physical existence begins to lose its charm, the Old Soul faces deeper existential problems.  This, perhaps, is why the Old Soul often feels world-wary and tired.


If you're interested in finding out more about Old Souls, why not take our Old Soul Test?

Please feel free to share any thoughts or opinions you have below!

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  • Bri

    I didn’t always know I was an old soul, but there was always a part of me that knew I was different. As a child, I suffered a depression that probably all old souls can relate to. It wasn’t caused by the chemistry in my body or hormones and it wouldn’t be helped with medicine and I never talked about it before to anyone. Just a second grader, I suffered this certain distraught that drained me mentally, physically and mentally. I never thought my parents would ever care because I knew they’d just call it complaining. I was always feeling like I was looked down on even though I was very respectful to everyone else. Ten years later, I still feel that way at times, but my experiences have helped me deal with it in a positive way. I now recognize it as having wisdom in a world so broken in an age of entitlement. For seventeen, have this powerful empathy for people a high level of intuition. and I have this knowledge and self-assurance that was mentioned. I also am curious about the world and have no desire for most of the things that young souls hope to acquire. I aspire to use my compassion for other people through social work and channeling my wisdom through reading the Bible. The book of Proverbs talks all about wisdom and the benefits of being wise. It has helped me with numerous areas of my life and I know that God made me an old soul for a reason. One of my goals that I really hope to accomplish is to connect with old souls and inform them of the benefits of having a beautiful spirit inside of them and not to let the brokenness in the world stop you from what you are meant to accomplish: changing the world.

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Reminding others that they can influence the world in very unique ways is a very worthy pursuit, Bri. I was raised in a religious family, and reading the Psalms was one of my favorite areas of the bible (probably only favorite area). I really recommend branching out to other religious texts, especially those written by mystics. :)

  • Marissa

    What I find interesting is how people will label themselves, yet hate it when people label them. If the majority of people hate being categorized then why do we have labels in the first place?

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      From what I’ve seen people label themselves as a way of finding themselves and understanding who they truly are. How can we lose our identities and egos if we don’t have any in the first place? Establishing the identity is first important to see through its fallacy, and is a necessary stepping stone in soulful maturing. People hate other people labeling them as it is like stepping into their own personal bubbles, and they feel only they can give accurate and meaningful labels to themselves, otherwise they risk being stereotyped or misunderstood.

  • Sylladi

    I have always felt like I am an old soul, out of place in the world. But I am wondering if other people feel this disconnection from their body like I do? I feel like I, more than most people, live only in my mind. In many ways my body doesn’t feel like part of me, and I have to remind myself to pay attention to it. Does anyone else experience this?

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      That depends Sylladi … are you talking about a detachment from this physical ego reality?

  • Damion

    I believe I was born a old soul in my family, because I am the only born child in my mediated family as well and have no children of my own. I have studied many things and may have unlocked ability’s though spiritual and technological meaning, because I see the world so different. I studied the Laws of Attraction but realize it doesn’t apply to me because my spirit is different then normal people, and my path is chosen subconsciously. By reading this page I finally realize I fit the description to the letter and have moved over seas to state to state when to stressed in one place, but mostly leaved alone. But more and more I’m finding more like me with a higher understanding….

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Damion, it sounds as though you are experiencing more synchronicity within your life which is a sign that you are aligning with your deepest inner needs. I’ve often found that when we live a life true to ourselves, we find so many more doors opening to us rather than closing.

  • Dorothy Hart

    Just finished reading a book that talks of old souls titled, “Original Innocence” by Wm. F. Fechter; that may be found of interest and value. :)

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Thank you for the suggestion Dorothy. :)

  • Jenny

    I’ve never realised I was an Old Soul until recently. I came across this concept a few weeks ago, and a piece of the puzzle just fell into place. I’ve had ‘old lady’ tendencies for as long as I can remember: I enjoy quietly reading or writing; I’ve taken a fancy to the lost art of calligraphy and script; I’d much rather spend a night in with a cup of tea rather than out partying or socialising; I’m of a minimalist mindset (this might have environmental roots ,though…); I like to observe life rather than be in the midst of all the action; I constantly introspect and look for a meaningful reason to continue this ephemeral existence; I don’t see the point to college (besides the wealth of knowledge available) and the rat-race that takes place after graduation; etc…

    I do not share much, if anything, in common with peers my age (freshman college student at the moment), and it’s been that way for a long time now. I simply have no interest in gossiping, or the latest celebrity drama, or politics — I never watch the news or read the newspaper. I always used to ask myself why I was so different from others — why couldn’t I really connect with anybody? I would have my childish moments (actually acting my age) where I could whole-heartedly enjoy activities with my few close friends, but it’d soon fade, and I’d feel extremely drained and tired afterwards. I always felt like I was acting a role at school, just trying to ‘fit-in’ and get through the school day before I could go home and enjoy time alone — I was always just ‘surviving’ it seems.

    It’s even worse now in college, where I not only see my peers daily in classes, but I have to live with them! I’m surrounded 24/7 by people that I just do not connect with, and while I’m a (content) loner and introvert through and through, the societal pressures to socialise and ‘network’ as the rest of my peers do gets to me every once in a while, making me question myself. I’ve had existential crises quite often because of that. I’m really only here for the learning opportunities that college provides. I don’t care for wealth or status or material items. I’m trying to find meaning in life. Life is just so ephemeral. Everything amounts to Nothing. Familial relationships are really the only important thing to me at the moment (which is quite weird for a teenager, I realise). What am I going to do when they’re gone? — that’s a scary thought…

    Sorry for such a long post. I guess I just needed to ramble to some like-minded people.

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Jenny, if we were in college together I’m sure we’d be friends (or at least, amiable every-now-and-then companions). But as you say, college is a valuable learning experience. It’s easy to be a hermit in Solitude, but putting yourself out there and challenging yourself gives birth to the most self-growth. People, after all, serve as our mirrors, and what we feel about ourselves we often project onto others.

      Also, chances are that eventually you will find someone who you can develop a strong connection with (this can level out your social contact, and make you less reliant on your family).

      Thank you for reading! :)

      • Jenny

        Hello. The articles on this website are absolutely intriguing, so they’re a joy to read!

        Just curious: what do you mean that people “serve as our mirrors”?

        • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

          That means a lot to me, thank you Jenny.
          People are the most potent and powerful ways of reflecting back to us our greatest virtues and imperfections. The greatest self-growth we can possibly achieve is in proximity to other people. It’s easy to be a pious hermit in a cave, but it is harder to face the challenges and confrontations that other people bring. This is what I mean by “other people serve as our mirrors”: they reflect back to us what we are in essence.

  • elijah

    This may be why me and my girlfreind clash so much because I been a old soul since i can remeber and she , shares many traits of a infant soul

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Sharing different Soul Ages with your partner is one of the major reasons for clashes and break-ups. But developing understanding and compassion can be the greatest way of salvaging these connections.

  • Richa

    Hi! Aletheia Luna,
    At last I have discovered or rather uncovered a truth about myself…..that i am a loner and an old soul just like you and many others on this blog…..Now i have come to understand why I always felt like a parent to my parents rather than a child of my parents! I have never felt like a part of this society. Felt so strange and wondered why I am so different than girls of my age…..I never had any of those teenage problems, never felt the need to be friends with boys instead I used to shy away from any conversation with boys. My elder sister thought I would grew up to be abnormal and yes I do have psychic abilities too! That has helped me in saving myself and my parents from conspiracies many times!!! I used to feel strange when I had psychic experiences and shared them with my mum but now I have a better understanding of myself…I think now I understand why I think so differently and have a strangely unusual life when compared to most of the people around me. Even my parents feel that my life has been full of strife and struggle with no achievement in a worldly sense, no material success. and yes I am a counselor too…and am still waiting for my soul mate at the age of 32!!!….

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      It’s a wonderful feeling when everything in our lives finally seems to make sense, or fall into place, isn’t it Richa? Having extrasensory gifts is often a sign of a matured soul as well. :)
      Thank you for sharing your joy here!

  • prasad

    IFeel like m a old soul”

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      If you feel like you are, you probably are Prasad. :)


  • Richard

    I came upon your article by chance, but upon reading, it all started to fall into place, thought provoking and undeniably a large part of my character.

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      A serendipitous find Richard :) Thank you for reading and sharing here.


  • Akhilan

    Hey luna, it was an amazing article!
    I was a happy go jolly guy,running and jumping around! Suddenly alot of things changed and I dnknw why but my perspective on the whole life changed too! Im out of the crowd..im lost in tot, I dn giv a sh*t about money, iv becum very calm and most importantly an introvert! Im just 21! ppl just cant digest the fact that i act older and independent, they think im sad and lonely! But they dnknw I feel better to look at the amazing skies, meditating, excercising and knowing things tat keeps me living my life better!! Im happy and positive bout my self.. and I now know wat ppl like us are called.. “old souls”. Thank you! \,,/,

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Wow Akhilan! I’m excited to see that this article had such a great affect on you, and the way you now perceive your life – congratulations! Things will look up for you from now on, that is the beauty of self-discovery. :)

      Many thanks for sharing your experience!


  • teresa

    It is wonderful to see in print what I have experienced in this earth life to be true

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      That means a lot Teresa, to know that I could capture something you have deeply felt.

      Many thanks for sharing this with me!


  • Nithyanandh

    Life, as many of you may truly see it as it is, is the only the true un-asked gift by luck or by nature or by God that we have been given. When life as we live it does try to make a ditch for us, few give up and loose their minds by coming to a conclusion that life was never meant to be happy for them; and most of us are strong enough to get up and dust away our coats saying “ahhh..f**k it..I have better things to be happy for. But truly blessed are the ones who never treats failure in life as the end of all beauty in living itself. I am just 22 years old and its not that I’ve seen it all. Its just that im proud of myself to even think and imagine a beautiful yards of greenery with amazing violet roses and chirping birds with a breeze that just sucks up every single depression away leading me to think…..”Is this failure that sadd and is it more worth than what I just thought of?”
    Walk with a smile after a fall in life. Atleast you’ll all be glad later on that you were strong atleast once :-)

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Some brilliant words here Nithyanandh. I particularly like: “walk with a smile after a fall in life”. It’s common to feel as though the world is ending and will never again bring joy after a tragedy or failure, but everything passes. Nothing is permanent.

      Thank you for reading. :)


  • calvin

    There’s no secret to life. A secret is hidden. Life is a mystery. Once you understand a mystery, it is no longer a mystery. The answers to mysteries are meant to be shared. Yet with each mystery being answered it reveals more mysteries to seek the answer to.

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Very well said Calvin!


  • Many

    Wow. It’s like I’m reading about myself. Sometimes people ask if I am a happy person. For me happiness is when you are understood. But it’s very hard to find someone who can understand you. Maybe my soul is older than other people around me.

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Hello Many. If happiness for you is being understood, then you will always be unhappy. That is why it’s best to find happiness from within yourself; to see that you are enough.

      Thank you for reading,


  • May S

    This is so me, I can remeber being the age of 6, and feeling soo much older than everyone else my age, even older than the grown-ups.
    This world confuses me still, it’s hard to understand why this world is the way it is, and why the people in it, act the way they do, I do not understand it’s “rules and norms”.
    The rat-race does not interest me at all, not does competition or status.
    Thank you for posting this! I have always felt strange and weird, and all my life been told I am too, realising I am an old soul is all :)

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      May S – I’m glad you can relate and finally put words to the feelings you experience. :)


  • idewz

    Money is not the root of all evil. How can paper be evil? This saying comes from the bible, “For the LOVE of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.” 1 Timothy 6:10 (NIV)
    Love is the keyword here. People should not go around thinking that if they make money all types of evil will happen, or they should be ashamed to be wealthy or aspire to some kind of wealth. Making your money a priority over everything else (especially God) is when it becomes a problem.

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      Hi Idewz,

      Money in and of itself is not evil. It is how and what people use money for that is “evil”. When money becomes an obsession, similar to as you say, only then does it become a form of “evil” or distraction from higher purposes. Thank you for your insights,


  • tal luther

    This insight answers lots of my questions. I also describe myself as a free spirit. And very spiritual.

    • http://lonerwolf.com/luna/ Aletheia Luna

      I’m happy to hear that Tal Luther! Thank you for sharing here,


  • BuRn


    • http://lonerwolf.com Aletheia Luna

      Burn, I’m happy to hear that this article could justify your thoughts and feelings about yourself. Thank you for your comment,


      • BW

        you are beautiful luna , i am here to thank you.

  • Caroline

    Who is the woman in the first photograph? I look identical to her and a friend encouraged me to contact the author of this article to find out who she is because the resemblance is somewhat eerie.

    • http://lonerwolf.com Aletheia Luna

      Sorry Caroline, I’m not sure.

  • Lilly

    Thank you for validating how I have felt most of my life. I too have been told I have an “old soul” especially significant for me was how I feel and my understand of religion or religious beliefs because “it was always so simple for me to see that many paths lead to one higher being or power”, I could never understand why others around me didnt see how clear it was or understand me when I tried to explain….. Thank you for being out there……..

    • http://lonerwolf.com Aletheia Luna

      And thank you for kindly sharing your thoughts Lilly!

  • Chris Trophalgo

    While I mostly agree with both of your articles, I believe there are some generalizations or misconceptions.

    1. Money, Addictions and other problems don’t often plague the old soul.

    I think this couldn’t be less true. A lot of old souls turn to substances to help lessen the incessant chatter of modern life. Old souls tend to be extremely sensitive, empathetic and intuitive. This can leave them feeling raw sometimes. In an age of instant communication and constant distraction, old souls can feel overwhelmed by the symphony of distractions. We do crave a simpler life. Many of us feel we should have been born in a different time. It’s for this reason that many turn to substances to quiet the constant assault on their senses.

    As far as money goes, old souls can experience issues here as well. We are a very sentimental and experientially driven bunch. We crave feeling, emotion and experience over material things. But we often find it hard as money is a necessary commodity needed for almost anything; food, travel etc. It’s a constant battle between our hate of materialism and our need to have the means to pursue our passions. We are never the type to hoard or seek more than we need, but we do want just enough to live our lives the way we want to. This can be a very challenging paradox for us.

    2. We come off as detached. We feel both people and things are passing.

    Again I think the opposite here. We don’t place much if any worth on things, but again we place a lot of emphasis on experiences, passions and pursuits. As far as people go, it’s again a misunderstanding of why. Old souls have a hard time identifying with most, especially in this age of instant gratification, trivialities and voyeuristic indulgences. This is particularly true in love. We find it very hard to relate to most people we date. They just don’t get it or us. But when we do find someone, the counter-part to our own old soul, it’s utterly and completely amazing. The depth of intimacy we can achieve with those individuals is nothing short of complete and absolute understanding. Old souls tend to be extremely empathetic, sensitive and in-tune with emotions. It can often be described as a sixth sense for many.

    Maybe we aren’t as accepted socially as normal people are, but when it comes to things that are truly important everyone seeks us out for advice. Our beautiful, centered and observant way of looking at the world often leaves them in awe. People see us as deep and wise. Which is nothing short of the truth. Our ability to search within and without for answers gives us a sort of worldly perspective that others cherish.

    Being an old soul can be rough, very rough. We never feel like we quite fit in. But if you can find counterparts in a romantic relationship and friends, its the most beautiful life you could ever ask for.

    • http://lonerwolf.com Aletheia Luna

      Hello Chris.
      You appear to have a very different perspective of the Old Soul, perhaps coloured by your own experiences in life, perhaps not. Thank you for sharing your ideas here. -L

      • Teresa

        Thank you for your comment Chris. I am in agreement. I just wonder where is the best place to meet other “old souls?” I’ve been seeking them out, as well as mature souls. Any ideas?

    • Jane

      I agree with you….

    • Whispering Star

      I whole heartedly agree with you, Chris. Perhaps these ‘other’ old souls are just not quite as old as we, just yet? :) Perhaps they will be able to relate to us more after living a few more lives! :) Namaste, friend. <3

    • BW

      Good Comment

  • Saturnal Soul

    Old souls are keen observers of the natural world. There they connect with the calm powerful knowing that they are part of something bigger t.han the sum of its parts.

    They often communicate in such a way that others are unaware that a question they have not yet asked has just been answered for future reference.

    This exchange occurs in a world without sound or form. It has no conscious meaning or presence of mind until the right question has been asked.

    Old souls accept that their own realization as light beings is rarely achieved without projecting the precise wisdom that heals, guides and empowers less-advanced souls.

    Through their acceptance of these responsibilities and patient, subtle, ego-less, for-the-better-of-the-higher-good contributions to the quickening of human evolution and humanity’s move toward a global community, they choose their own time of ascension. Many have have yet to consider ascension.

    If they consider their work undone or the progress disrupted according to their wisdom, they very simply choose to remain old souls and will reject ascendance in favor of service to less-advanced souls, who will grow toward their own expression of understanding, awareness and wisdom.

    When the wisdom these old souls possess is surpassed by the wisdom of those who follow after them, they turn inward and enter transcendance of illusions of force, form and self to become light bearers in service to the natural world, humanity and planet earth. A global community awakes and closes the circle of life. Balance is restored between the cosmic forces as Chaos ceases escalating expansion and the equal but opposite contractions of the forces of Order subside into an ebb and flow of Cosmic forces that enable growth through redefining the human condition and multi-dimensional existence where science, spirit and technology combine to realise more human potential than ever before, and the means to strive for, reach and surpass it.

    • http://lonerwolf.com Luna

      Hello Saturnal Soul, many thanks for sharing your own definition of the Old Soul here! I’m sure others will be interested in reading what you have to say. -L

    • Whispering Star

      I would so love to meet you. Namaste. :)

      • BW


  • Cheryl Sonnenwald

    Thank you- I. Was beginning to feel alone out there. My kids are very young souls, and my son-in-law just above that. And they tend to attract interesting people that are trying to find themselves. I KNOW who I am, but just get lonely from time to time.

    • http://lonerwolf.com Luna

      Cheryl, that is understandable. When our perspectives and personalities significantly differ from those around us, it’s natural to feel somewhat alienated and ‘weird’. I’m happy that this article was able to show you that you’re not alone in these differences, and in fact, there are many people out there who experience exactly what you do, but in different contexts. Thank you for reading and commenting!

  • Grace

    Thanks for posting this article – I can relate to it so much (I’m an INFP) it sounds almost exactly like the way I am and also I feel less strange after reading that all these traits are part of being different and not just having a strange state of mind. Also I think one of my closest friends is most likely an ‘Old Soul’ as well, so I’ll be telling him about this :) (I would guess he’s an ENFP or INTP)

    • http://lonerwolf.com Luna

      Hi there Grace! I’m so happy to hear that this article has helped you to broaden your self-understanding. Many thanks for reading! -L

  • Emil Gottfried

    You two are a hoot, I like you already if for nothing else, your authenticity. I have been told I am the oldest soul, the first and the last. I have gained some wisdom still from your site understanding my life and interactions in this world nonetheless and am grateful for your work here. Perhaps I will meet some people here in Phoenix that don’t bore me to tears yet through your site. The father knows… Blessings!

    • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

      Emil, and I am grateful for your comment! I´m so happy to hear that this site has been of some use to you. All the very best! -L

  • Lotus

    This is such a fascinating subject for me! I have been labeled an “old soul” since I can remember! I didn’t really understand what was meant until now. Took the test and scored 92… ;)
    Thank you for writing about this. I am INFJ as well! :D

    • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

      Thanks for reading and commenting Lotus. Wow, another INFJ! There definitely seems to be a correlation between intuitive people and feeling old inside. Welcome ;)

  • donh

    Narcissism , being obsessively preoccupied with your own day dreaming mental projection , is a seriously damaging mental illness that alienates the ” old soul” from the surrounding universe……http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

    • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

      Hi Donh. I’m not sure whether you’re suggesting Old Souls are narcissistic? If not, please forgive me. :) ~L

      • donh

        Your failure to see that my comment obviously suggests Old Soul syndrom has dangerous narcissistic tendancies proves the very point of my comment…. that too much self absorption into ones own private world of immaginations can lead to a debilitating blindness , a disenlightenment, a disconnection from what other people think, feel, and say ,. To excess narcissim can debilitate a person’s ability to grow , learn, and interact with other human beings in a way that is sad and not to be romanticized as a false ” myth. “

        • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

          Hello Donh. I would say that it’s a bit of a big leap to categorize all people who identify as Old Souls as narcissistic, which seems to be an overly-simplistic analysis. Of course, some people may get an ego-boost out of thinking they are wise and ‘older than others’, but the experience of being an Old Soul is far-reaching. It’s a feeling many people have inside, which allows them to connect even more deeply to those around them. However, if you wish to perceive this as a “romanticized and false myth”, you are free to do that as well. It’s certainly an empowering feeling to judge other people, and label them as being self-absorbed. It makes you feel quite powerful. :)

          • donh

            How did I know that the bottom line point of your initial reply was to make some beat down of me about making a broad assumption about people? …because I have known many an ” Old Soul ” and their behaviors are predictable. So I purposefully did not make a pre-emptive defensive remark about ” not all old souls are narcissistic ” . I should not have to make such a defensive disqualifier because a good person, a kind person would not jump to such an insulting assuption that I am broadly characterising ALL Old souls as narcissistic and proceed to pound into me as ” judging other people to feel powerful ” while you hypocritically go about that very same behavior of passing judgement on me and slamming me on a personal level. …but this is what you get from narcissistic people. They CAN’T be helpfully criticised without becoming hostile and antagonistic. They really SUCK at friendships and having functional conversations with anyone other than bobble head sycophants . No “power trip ” here just TRUTH. I simply did not enjoy reading your imbalanced one sided romanticism of a mental state that can cause a lot of pain and disappointment for all involved.

            • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

              Donh, apologies if I misunderstood you, as the internet is a difficult medium to communicate on. However, when you referred to “Old Soul syndrome” in your previous comment, this does seem to broadly categorize people who identify with the Old Soul temperament as being inherently narcissistic. Perhaps you have had troubles with a few people who have identified as Old Souls in your life, and fair enough. They may suck as friends, and at having functional conversations, as you say, but this is your own experience which you are assuming is true for the rest of us (e.g. “no power trip here just TRUTH”.) As I said before, it’s possible for some people identifying as Old Souls to be narcissistic – how many of them are this way is impossible to say. Other people, on the other hand (one of whom I live with), are kind, gentle and self-sacrificing souls. Though I wouldn’t assume that they are all this way. By the way, I’m not necessarily a good person or a kind person, and I don’t claim to be one either. In fact, I’m really quite rotten a lot of the time, and many times illogical and overly-emotional, but hey, such is life :) I’ve never really heard of the phrase “helpfully criticized”, perhaps you mean “constructive criticism”? Nevertheless, feel free to continue venting ;) All the best, ~L

              • AllTheWorldsAStage

                Donh: you are rude, you are hypocritical and you are not nearly as accurate as you think yourself to be.
                First of all, Wikipedia is not a source for a convenient-store lesson on psychology. Actually, it may be the perfect source for such a thing, so scratch that. Furthermore, your language reveals itself in your overt outburst, accurately and casually cited as “venting” by Miss Luna.
                If you have indeed known so many Old Souls, I’m not surprised in the least they’ve felt no compulsion to give you their best. What you deem as “constructive criticism” is delivered in a closed and destructive manner. In this way, you represent the very conflict-driven climate an Old Soul would never seek to engage meaningfully with. Accept people as they are, and if you do not know how they are, stay quiet on the matter until you do. If you try to understand by applying presupposed conclusions, you will never truly understand. See, what is not common is neither inherently better or worse–it may be EASIER to understand by applying labels (i.e. narcissism) but these are rarely holistic or accurate in terms of a soul’s identity. An important distinction, as I would argue the soul affects behavioral traits rather than the other way around. As I can hear the bite in the voice of your words, I choose to accept you–at bare minimum–as someone worthy of reproval (note: for your projected persona in these comments, NOT for you as a person; admittedly, I generally fail to find a distinction, but we can all hide behind unnecessary disclaimers).

                Luna should not have to be so nice in response to the malicious manner you “defend” yourself in–but she is. A testament to the truth in her words. Your words wrap around themselves and back again with lies and jabs. You cannot support your claims. You have gained no respect from anyone on this site, which you chose to visit. If you felt compelled to read through the entirety of Luna’s romanticized accounts of a (by and large) GENTLE and self-aware personality type only to satisfy yourself with a deliberately disingenuous ATTACK —> perhaps you should look within yourself to see if narcissism in fact has its wily grips on you. On that note, good day, sir.

                & Luna: Loved the article. Love this site. Appreciated your kindness in response to this guy; well played. I just couldn’t help myself.

                –Eric, INFJ

                • AllTheWorldsAStage

                  Perhaps I should have kept 1 Corinthians: 13 closer to the front of my mind as I started in on the previous post. It’s a good one to go by. A good one to remember when focusing your message with truth laid out before you. A verse I hope not to forget in a forum like this again. We are all guilty of letting emotion fuel our words from time to time. Lessons being learned always.

                • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

                  Thank you AllTheWorldsAStage, I appreciate your comment very much. It´s a joy to author such articles and to elicit such a colorful array of responses. :P Thanks for reading once again.

                • BW

                  Top class thanks

        • buddha

          total nonsense this comment is!

    • https://twitter.com/chemical_ex peace-maker

      Hello Donh

      Well Having spent a considerable chunk of life with Narc I can safely say Narcs can not be “old soul”. Narcs undying need for attention and stay as center of attraction doesnt go hand in hand with “old souls” who love solitude.
      Narc’s den can be lonely because they act cruelly on people who love them to whom they reply with discard and devaluation. While “old souls” may not indulge with people whom they dont feel “connected” to.

      On scale of smartness/ knowledge they *seem* to be close on scale but in reality narcs have longest journey to become an “old soul”

      “old souls” dont wish to hurt others because they are aware of they “antics “. Narcs dont want to hurt themselves or let anyone do. No one else exists for them. :)

  • Lionel

    Ah, yes, Luna, old souls do achieve maturity while they’re quite young, perhaps because they were born mature, as you suggest. Maturity is nothing by itself. We all get smart eventually. Live long enough, get beaten up enough times and everyone finally wises up, but usually when it’s much too late. To achieve maturity, though, while you’re young enough to enjoy it, that, to me, is WISDOM. I envy you young “old souls,” but I’m happy for you. Wish I’d been an old soul before I got old.

    • Justin ‘Otter’

      But far better to be one now, than never :) Life takes away youth, and replaces it with wisdom. It is usually a fair trade, in my opinion. It is really strange, though, to feel older than one’s colleagues. Especially when they are all years older then you (early 20’s). It hurts when you give them advice and then watch them make the mistakes you warned them about. Not that I am somehow perfect, though, I just haven’t made the same kind of mistakes. So please don’t envy us; with greater wisdom, comes greater pain.

      • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

        Justin, I echo your thoughts and sentiments. Society tends to assume that with age comes wisdom. They tell us constantly to “listen to our elders”. But many of the elders that I’ve observed are just like children, except aged and set in their ways. Go to the casino for instance, and the vast majority of people there are pensioners, spending their money on mind-numbing machines. That’s not to say that all old people are like that, some are very wise indeed. But they are few and far between.

        Being a young old soul can be a tricky affair, as you suggest. The minute they open their mouths to say something intelligent is the minute they’re judged harshly as being “arrogant”, “precocious” or “pretentious”. Sort of like “stop preaching to me old man! I know better than you. Who’s the old one here?”

        Thanks Justin!

        • Justin ‘Otter’

          Your wisdom, Luna, is exactly why I come here. Your approach to things is revolutionary. I have never been to a casino (too young), so I really didn’t know. I don’t mean to preach, so please forgive me if I sounded (or sound) that way. Interacting isn’t my strong point, as I spend 85 to 90% of my time alone.

          • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

            Hi Justin. That means a lot to me, though I attribute a lot of what I discover and write to Sol. His insight and wisdom is what helps me to write the articles I write. :)

            I think you may have misunderstood what I wrote. When talking about preaching, I was referring to the general thoughts that older people have towards younger people. Not in reference to what you wrote!

            It’s nice to hear from a fellow lone wolf. Have a terrific day!

    • http://lonerwolf.com/ Luna

      Lionel, thanks for commenting. :)
      Young Old Souls tend do tend to get frustrated at times, however. It’s nice to feel your age sometimes (especially when you’re young). But Old Souls tend to have a bit of an upper hand when it comes to life decisions (and not making terrible mistakes!) I drift in between Mature soul and Old Soul, so it does tend to be a bit strange to be so young, but at the same time, feel like a middle to old aged woman.
      Thanks for dropping by!

    • Susanhope Otf MasonRbe

      You can be mature in certain ways as a child, but not necessarily recognized as such by society or even by family.

      • http://lonerwolf.com Luna

        Very true Susanhope. Many old soul children are thought of as smart asses by society, which is unfortunate, as they can teach us a lot if we choose to listen to them closely.

        • Chriisy

          All my life I have been told I am an old soul…I took the test and it says 95% old soul.some I gave a low score because it asked about others opinion of me and to be honest I do not know what others think of me lol.. Knowing what the phrase means shines a big spot life on my life now and lots of understanding ..my question is how are other people seeing u as an old soul?my mother was the first one to say it to me but other people that I had limited contact with have said it too teachers counselors nursing home patients …….why is that ?

          • http://lonerwolf.com Aletheia Luna

            Hi Chriisy,

            People can be very perceptive in regards to normal vs. abnormal behavior, which can manifest itself in many different nuances for example: the way you speak, the way you joke around, what you choose to talk about, how you carry yourself, what your interests are, how well you get along with other people and so forth.


    • BW