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What is Existential Depression? (15 Signs You Have It)

by Aletheia Luna · Updated: Apr 2, 2025 · 133 Comments

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If you are highly sensitive, a deep thinker/feeler, and are unusually perceptive, chances are you may have had (or have) existential depression.

Depression is a topic that is frequently written about. We hear remedies, theories, and stories all the time.

But few people have heard of existential depression – hence why those who suffer from it can feel tremendously alienated and under-represented.


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There are numerous types of depression, and they can be categorized in the following way:

  • Situational Depression — caused by external events such as a death, tragedy, loss of employment, etc.
  • Hormonal Depression — caused by an internal imbalance of chemicals
  • Biological Depression — triggered by genetics
  • Seasonal Depression — caused by the changing of seasons (as seen in seasonal affective disorder)
  • Intrapersonal Depression — caused by toxic beliefs and perceptions that lead to low self-worth
  • Existential Depression — caused by a lack of meaning and Soul connection 

In this article, we’ll only be exploring existential depression and how to handle it.

Seeing as it’s such an unusual form of depression that doesn’t always respond well to normal treatment, my goal is to help you compassionately face it.

As someone who has experienced existential depression before, I want you to know that it does fade and go away – there is hope.

Table of contents

  • What is Existential Depression? 
  • 15 Signs You Have Existential Depression
  • Why Existential Depression Can’t Always Be Healed With ‘Usual’ Methods
  • What Causes Existential Depression?
  • Existential Depression, Sensitivity, and Giftedness
  • 8 Ways to Overcome Existential Depression

What is Existential Depression? 

In a nutshell, existential depression is a type of spiritual emergency. It is crippling, profound, pervasive, and highly personal in nature. Most people who experience existential depression feel numb, lost, and empty inside. These people tend to be philosophical deep thinkers and feelers who want to understand the meaning of life. Clinically, existential depression falls into a “grey” area as it is often classified as “uncaused,” although it can sometimes be triggered by internal or external crises.

Read more: Existential Crisis: 9 Ways to Get Through Life’s Darkest Times »

15 Signs You Have Existential Depression

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Signs of existential depression include:

  1. Continuous “deep thoughts” about the meaning and nature of life
  2. Intense desire to answer seemingly unanswerable questions such as, “What is the purpose of existence?” “What happens after death?” and “Why was I born?”
  3. Intense dissatisfaction with the state of society and an existential dread
  4. Feeling disconnected from others (thus few or no friends)
  5. Feeling misunderstood and on a “different level” to others
  6. Chronic and profound loneliness
  7. Sensations of being “dead,” “numb,” or empty inside
  8. Disinterest in social contact because it feels shallow
  9. Melancholic moods
  10. Anxiety
  11. Loss of interest in usual pursuits
  12. Lack of enthusiasm or motivation
  13. Low energy and chronic fatigue
  14. The belief that most things are “futile” or “meaningless”
  15. Contemplation or attempt of suicide

How many of these signs can you relate to?


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Why Existential Depression Can’t Always Be Healed With ‘Usual’ Methods

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If you’re suffering from existential depression you’ve probably been taken to (or sought out) psychotherapy already.

Chances are that it may have not worked for you, and no matter how much medication, counseling, or analysis you underwent, your feelings never left. If this is the case, you probably feel even more hopeless and alone than before.

But the true failure lies not with you, but in the mainstream psychotherapeutic profession and its blind treatment of all depression as “one and the same.” Writes one author:

The danger with depression in the gifted adult is that to 99% of the psychological profession “depression is depression is depression.” Thus someone who presents with “depression” is drugged and treated for “depression.” Sorry! Wrong! But thank you for playing.

Existential depression can’t always be healed with usual methods because it is not biological or hormonal, it is spiritual in nature.

By spiritual, I mean that it’s to do with the deep, nitty-gritty pre-occupation with the nature of life, death, and meaning.

In fact, existential depression and the feeling of being separated from the Divine (God) and the Soul go hand-in-hand. We’ll explore this more next.

(Please note: Just because regular therapy doesn’t work for some people with existential depression, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it won’t work for you. Please seek out a therapist or counselor in any case – many mental health professionals these days incorporate holistic healing practices that may support and uplift you.)

What Causes Existential Depression?

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So then, if existential depression is not like usual depression, what is the source of it?

As I mentioned previously, the clinical understanding of existential depression is that of a “vague and uncaused mental illness.”

(In other words, it isn’t external, biological, seasonal, hormonal, or to do with self-esteem.)

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But this is an extremely superficial definition and one that is based on the limited insight of many psychotherapeutic professionals.

As someone who has personally struggled with existential depression in the past, and helped others with the same issue, I can say unequivocally that existential depression is a crisis of the Soul. It is a symptom of the Dark Night of the Soul.

If you don’t know what the Dark Night of the Soul is, it’s a period in life when we awaken to the deep disconnection we have with our Souls.

This profound disconnection is also known as Soul Loss.

Soul Loss as the Root Cause

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Our Soul is our deepest and truest nature, our most authentic Core Self. It is our wellspring of love, joy, creativity, compassion, and spiritual interconnectedness.

When we lose touch with our Souls, we lose touch with our innate Divinity.

And when we lose touch with our Divinity, we feel lost, alone, and empty inside. This is what shamanic cultures refer to as the phenomenon of ‘Soul Loss‘ – and Soul Loss is at the very root of existential depression. 

So here we have three experiences that are all interconnected:

  1. Existential depression is caused by Soul Loss
  2. Soul Loss is what causes the Dark Night of the Soul
  3. The Dark Night of the Soul fuels existential depression (it’s a cycle)

The Dark Night of the Soul was originally written about by the 16th-century mystic St. John of the Cross.

He described it as a period in life where the Soul yearns to reconnect with God (or Spirit).

Although the Dark Night of the Soul is a painful and tormenting experience at first, it is actually a cause for celebration. I know this sounds crazy – but you are finally waking up! For many people, the Dark Night marks the beginning of the sacred journey back to Wholeness and Spiritual Oneness.

But back to Soul Loss:

So how do we experience Soul Loss in the first place?

Soul Loss, and consequently existential depression, happen for a number of reasons. Common causes of Soul Loss include:

  • Negative societal conditioning
  • Childhood trauma
  • Experiencing a tragedy or hardship
  • Undergoing a sudden big life change
  • Soulless living (e.g., being raised with weak values, working in a trivial job, making choices that aren’t aligned with the Soul, etc.)

Think back to when you first started experiencing existential depression. Did some big, traumatic, or otherwise disruptive experience come before it?


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Usually, you can trace back to something definite that triggered it (although don’t worry if you can’t, it might be mentally repressed). Understanding what caused your existential depression is the first step to finding inner peace.


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Existential Depression, Sensitivity, and Giftedness

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Without fail, I have often found that sensitive people tend to experience existential depression to a higher degree than the general population. After all, sensitivity allows us to feel what other people usually can’t feel.

This very sensitivity is usually why existential depression sufferers feel so isolated and misunderstood: they genuinely are on another plane of existence from the typical population.

(Note: just because you’re sensitive doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll ever experience existential depression or that you’re “doomed” to always experience it. As with anything in life, there is no black/white finality here, only shades of grey.)

At heart, the existential depression sufferer is usually some form of “gifted” individual — a poet, artist, empath, old soul, philosopher, healer, mystic, or sage in the making.

Because such people find very few places to call “home” in our current society, it’s no wonder that they naturally feel misplaced, alone, and disconnected.

8 Ways to Overcome Existential Depression

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Overcoming existential depression usually takes time (although there have been instances where it disappears immediately, such as during mystical experiences).

Moving through this dark place requires gentleness, courage, persistence, and the willingness to reach out for support.

Here are some helpful tips and practices that can help alleviate your suffering (based on my own experience):

1. Give your pain a higher spiritual meaning/purpose

Learn to see your unhappiness and meaninglessness in a different light. Re-frame it. This is where being introduced to the concept of “Soul Loss” and the “Dark Night of the Soul” helped me out immensely: I realized that this was all a spiritual journey, not just an endless pit of suffering. What higher meaning or purpose can you find within this pain right now? (If you need help discovering the meaning, see our Dark Night of the Soul Journal.)

2. Realize that the mind is limited

It is natural for us to want all the answers in life. But this is what I found: the more answers you get, the more questions you ask. The mind is an endless cycle, an endless labyrinth of questions, thoughts, and more questions. But here’s the thing: the mind is not all there is to life. Don’t fall into the trap of making the mind and the intellectual pursuit of answers your God. The mind is only one layer of existence, and it can actually PREVENT you from living.

As author Søren Kierkegaard once wrote,

Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

Find ways of involving yourself more in life. Take up some active hobbies or pursuits that gift you with new skills. Start small and take baby steps.

3. Stop, pause, and be still

If you’ve ever read into the works of enlightened people you will discover one major message: peace can be found in every moment. And this isn’t some airy-fairy promise, it is a reality that you can experience first-hand. But it requires patience, stillness, and dedication.

Meditation is one of the best ways to experience this deep, eternal, abiding peace. Try dedicating at least 10 minutes a day to this practice. There are many apps that can help you get started such as Calm, Headspace, and InsightTimer. If you have a negative perception of meditation, try experimenting with different types such as Body Scan, mantra, loving-kindness (Metta), and insight meditation to see what suits you best right now.

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4. What fills your Soul with fire?

If you’re unable to answer this question, think back to childhood … what did you love doing? If you still aren’t sure, explore different fields and topics of interest. Finding what your passion is and what makes you feel excited to be alive is a wonderful way of moving through existential depression. Having a meaning or personal mission to fulfill will help add great depth to your life. 

Read more: Soul Searching: 7 Ways to Uncover Your True Path »

5. Nurture yourself with self-compassion

What you’re experiencing can be a terribly painful and lonely ordeal, so be kind to yourself. Give yourself permission to slow down, create a safe space, and practice self-care. Commit to releasing old patterns, thoughts, beliefs, and even people that don’t support your well-being. See our article on how to love yourself for more guidance. Learning how to nurture your wounded inner child is a great place to start this work. By holding space for this delicate part of yourself, your existential depression won’t cut you quite as deeply.

6. Connect with others/life

Getting a pet (or becoming closer with your existing one) is a great place to start. Dogs, in particular, give us unconditional love and help us to get out of the dark void that is existential depression.

Also, try connecting with nature. Go outside with a relaxing cup of tea, watch the sky, the birds, the trees, the rain, and the sunshine. Nature can be very soothing – in fact, if you live near a forest, try and go forest bathing (the Japanese practice of using nature to calm the nervous system). Gradually, you can build up to reaching out to a therapist that will genuinely understand where you’re coming from.

Try seeking out a spiritual therapist or one that works with sufferers of the ‘spiritual emergence’ (try a Google search). Also, try simply searching for ‘existential depression therapists/counselors.’ There are many therapists worldwide that do online Skype sessions if you can’t find one in your local area.

7. Explore Soul Retrieval

Soul Retrieval is a shamanic and psycho-spiritual tool for reintegrating lost parts of your psyche and rediscovering more inner Wholeness. There are numerous forms of Soul Retrieval out there such as mirror work, internal family systems therapy, guided visualization, breathwork, and more.

Soul Retrieval is a powerful practice that is part of the broader collection of approaches to reconnecting with the Soul known as Soul Work.

8. Take responsibility for your happiness

No progress or authentic change in life can be made without taking self-responsibility. Life is multi-faceted. Yes, there is darkness, but there is also light. Yes, there is depression, but there is also joy. Learn to honor both sides and find them within everyday life, and you will experience more wholeness and inner balance.

Yes, it’s important to acknowledge deep and serious existential issues, but it’s also important to acknowledge and respect life’s beauty. Above all, understand that we are so much more than the limited ego that feels small and separate.

We all possess something mysterious and powerful within us. Call it the Life Force, call it Spirit, call it the Higher Self, but it’s beyond the mind. Exploring spirituality will help you to understand and experience this for yourself.

Read more: What is Spirituality? (EVERYTHING You Need to Know) »

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I truly hope this examination of existential depression has helped to open some new doors for you. I would love to hear your experience with this topic or any advice below. You could help a lot of struggling people out there.

Finally, if you are contemplating suicide, please seek immediate help here. Your life is a precious gift and one that can be salvaged, transformed, and healed if you allow it to.

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About Aletheia Luna

Aletheia Luna is a prolific psychospiritual writer, author, educator, and intuitive guide whose work has touched the lives of millions worldwide. As a survivor of fundamentalist religious abuse, her mission is to help others find love, strength, and inner light in even the darkest places. She is the author of hundreds of popular articles, as well as numerous books and journals on the topics of Self-Love, Spiritual Awakening, and more. [Read More]

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  1. CatherineCC says

    May 21, 2016 at 4:50 am

    SSRI’s might not be the right thing for everyone, but they very definitely work for some people – a lot of people probably. And I think that if your doctor prescribes them for you, then you should give them the benefit of the doubt.

    SSRI’s might not be the right thing for everyone, but they very definitely work for some people – a lot of people probably. And I think that if your doctor prescribes them for you, then you should give them the benefit of the doubt.

    SSRI’s might not be the right thing for everyone, but they very definitely work for some people – a lot of people probably. And I think that if your doctor prescribes them for you, then you should give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Reply
  2. bane singh says

    May 19, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Hi, pls save me as I’m feeling very much depression and full of anxiety.there days are feeling very dark period for me.a lot of thoughts are going continuously in my mind even though whatever I’m doing.im sleeping,standing doing work my thoughts of being lonely ,empty.have lost everything’s .nothing left to me though my wife and children staying with me,im feeling alone.I thought nobody is loving me,care me,they do not listen to me.they do not obey to me though I fulfilled all of their desires at all coast.im feeling very measurable since last 8 months.i do morning walk and exercise of 1 hr daily and 1 hr prayer to God and my deities to normalise the things.nothing left in my life.no friends no relatives no god no family to help me to recover.i used to cry daily for hrs.i thought to comitte suicides several times .please help me.

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    • Stoyan Manchev says

      June 08, 2016 at 2:05 am

      There are other people like you out there I PROMISE YOU. And they have gone through the same. They have and they have pulled through. But one thing I can assure you is that nobody can help you if you don’t let them. If you perhaps are feeling down you have to admit that maybe there is something you can change. There is always someone to talk to, there is always someone to share with and to get advice from. I can tell you as a survivor of an excrutiating depressive period – there is an answer, an answer for your very problem and you WILL find it I promise. If you are dedicated to bettering your life the good will come to you. Anytime you need to talk you can reach out and you can start with me. If you have anything to talk about just answer – I’m always here :)

      Reply
      • bane singh says

        June 18, 2016 at 1:22 am

        Thanks stay an Manchester, your reply has really encouraged me a lot and I’m feeling a little energy within me to be stand up again.pls keep continue to give more valuable encouragements.i welcome you.i really will be greatful to you of it take me to betterment of my life.

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        • bane singh says

          June 18, 2016 at 1:24 am

          Sorry Stoyan Manchev for wrongly spell your name

          Reply
  3. PB says

    May 18, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    The diagnosis is correct, but there is no remedy.

    Once you know that physical life bores you to tears, and nothing is worthwhile, then there is nothing else for you to do. Either you end your life here and now and be done with it, or just count the days till you pass away naturally – if like me you are too lazy to even end your life.

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    • Stoyan Manchev says

      June 08, 2016 at 1:55 am

      Maybe this is a calling to go beyond the physical and search for the spiritual – I mean what do you have to lose, all you can do is gain ;)

      Reply
  4. Stoyan Manchev says

    May 18, 2016 at 4:33 am

    Inspired by your post I looked back at my life and I summarised my experience with thinking – where it began, what it served me for and what I should do now. I’m undergoing a lot of changes right now and in the process of clearing out myself of the old I find myself to be really inspired to put it into words. So I wrapped this contemplation in one little text. I hope you enjoy.

    “In the searching of answers”

    1. That noise – be damned. Damned… but I suppose it is, after all, useful. After all, as much as it has hurt me, it has helped me as well – if we don’t look pessimistically.

    2. From a little boy it never left me alone. As much as I ran, there was nowhere to hide and as much as I hid, nowhere to run – it ALWAYS caught up to me.

    3. It didn’t bother me in the beginning , it didn’t cause me any pain. Until THAT day. The day that the sky fell.

    4. In the darkness I didn’t KNOW what to feel but I particularly remember that I didn’t KNOW what I KNOW and most certainly I didn’t THINK I KNOW what to THINK.

    5. I lethargically carried through everyday life, I didn’t feel the air, didn’t sense the aromas, didn’t taste the food – it was only a filler for the bottomless pit in me.

    6. But one day I decided enough was enough so I tried climbing towards the light, but the more steps I took, the farther the light seemed.

    7. ”Why is this happening?” – I remember asking, while my despair took over me. “Why”… That is one very deceiving QUESTION.

    8. And so I continued trying to climb, I slipped, tried again and slipped once more and again and again… Whatever I did I ended up at the same position – lying on the bottom, sinking even deeper.

    9. And as I was witnessing the last miniature beam of light disappear, there, in the absolute darkness, ONE ANSWER dawned upon me. And I began laughing.

    10. And I laughed. My laugh echoed in the pit, which almost seemed to press me tighter and tighter. And then and there I spoke the ONE ANSWER to ALL QUESTIONS – “I don’t know.”

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  5. Uzumaki Desu says

    May 17, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    I really enjoyed the fact that you posted this article/thought process/awareness. It would have been something I would have needed and appreciated earlier in this existence. I understand the article CAN be helpful for some people lost in the TANGIBLE place this current life is. So, in the tangible sense, you can feel good that you posted this. I do not need to put good in quotes, because I am sure you know what I mean. I just wanted to say, very nice article, and I am glad you 2 are trying to help others along the path. Maybe we 3 can speak someday. If it shall pass, it shall. But in the current time, keep persisting in the positive . I appreciate your sharing.

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  6. Mati says

    May 17, 2016 at 9:54 am

    “At heart, the existential depression sufferer is always some form of “gifted” individual — a poet, artist, philosopher, healer, mystic or sage in the making.”
    This is so true.
    The other day I bookmark the article that Sol written about “Why Therapy Doesn’t Work For You” to have a back up for demonstrate that I am not the only crazy saying these things.

    To reach the point of being truly aware that a lot of my patterns were “psychological resources awaiting cultivation and embodiment within us”,
    It took me so much hardship, suffering and misunderstandings that even can’t start to tell you.

    Despite this revelation years back, I’m still journeying the Dark Night of the Soul, I believe, leaving it.

    This article contains so much power inside, and truth.
    I will bookmark it as well. Thank you so much for your work.

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    • Aletheia says

      May 17, 2016 at 10:56 am

      My deep pleasure Mati! I’m so glad our work can help you find your way.

      Reply
  7. jjjael says

    May 17, 2016 at 9:31 am

    <3

    Reply
  8. Ika says

    May 17, 2016 at 8:35 am

    Why do I always fall into something existential? Depression, thinking, emotions, intelligence, illness, etc. It’s like the “category” hasn’t been invented, unknown cause, the grey area you mentioned.

    Reply
    • Aletheia says

      May 17, 2016 at 10:57 am

      Perhaps a higher calling? :)

      Reply
      • Ika says

        May 18, 2016 at 8:31 am

        Can I have a lower one, please? It really is out of my reach

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        • Stoyan Manchev says

          June 08, 2016 at 1:57 am

          You don’t know until you reach for it :)

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  9. Matthew Scott Holycross says

    May 17, 2016 at 2:49 am

    Sometimes I wonder if the long drawn out years I have felt weren’t a kind of soul death.
    Like when my mother was choking me at a year old in the crib? My sister pulled her away and stayed with me until I moved.
    Maybe the soul part of me had already died at that point?
    Or when she tried bleeding me out as a young boy, I felt all the stages of dying from the full cognition of a kid. But the life that she failed to take was just that much less a life to be lived?
    Like each other time after was just whittling me down to a husk.
    But I still have some hard to describe “ways” of feeling life.
    And as cold as I feel walking through life, I feel like I feel everything so extremely at the same time.
    Almost like a paradox that makes me feel like a ghost and a lightning rod all at once.

    I used to think of dying all the time.
    But only as an unfinished job.

    Is that soul loss?

    Since I feel no soul or spirit. I feel memories and experience. Neither of which seems a mysterious or enlightening thing to me anymore.
    If something is a new experience, I take it in at that moment because the memories seem the only lasting product. But only last while alive.
    Not lasting.

    Make sense?

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    • Aletheia says

      May 17, 2016 at 10:54 am

      I think so, although I might be a little blurry on what you mean.
      Being on the verge of death at the hands of your mother has obviously left a very deep scar and wound. Our mothers are supposed to be our supports and foundations, and when that is taken away from a young age, we grow up feeling unstable and lost. So yes, it does sound like you might be experiencing soul loss. But the thing I always like to remind people about the concept of “soul loss” is that it can become another story people cling to in order to victimize themselves. The best thing to do is to go deep into that pain and explore it. Allow yourself to finish the mourning process. Explore the ways you dramatize, re-play, and re-tell your pain. Open to moving on, understanding, truly forgiving, and finally loving. The soul can be retrieved slowly through this dedication. It’s hard, but absolutely possible.

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    • Debra Pascua says

      May 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm

      I grew up in a very abusive home too, and felt like you are describing. The first step for me in breaking out of that prison, was to finally remember my abusive experiences exactly as they were – and seeing myself finally in how I felt and what I experience, and that I was a victim who needed ME to empathize with. I had this very huge lake of tears deep inside surrounded by a very thick glacier keeping all that pain in. That is why I couldn’t feel anything. Every time I felt a treat, another defensive layer of ice would pack on. Because I knew that if I let that whole glacier break at once – it would over take me. So for days, I would just visual a small crack in the glacier with the lake of tears gently flowing out, and the ice melted a bit each day. I would cray sporadically probably for a month or so, as the tears flowed out in my mind and body. But they were sad tears. They were simply emotion releasing at a gentle consistent pace. This wasn’t the end of my healing but they were the first breaking step that allowed me to feel the world – feeling it, and being less defensive with others that didn’t deserve it. maybe this will help you. In any case, peace be with you and I hope you feel better soon.

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  10. purplelephant says

    May 17, 2016 at 1:24 am

    Hi Luna,
    It always seems like your articles come to me at the time when I need it most. My existential depression is one that I think might be the hardest to solve; its NOT from a deep emptiness or of life lacking meaning, in fact its quite the opposite. My depression stems from the fact that our world is so flawed and unjust that no matter what I do, it won’t be enough. I have great meaning and purpose in my life. However, after watching several documentaries (one being called “Requiem for the American Dream” which I highly suggest watching) and attending a sustainability college, I have learned just how rigged and inherently evil our capitalist economy truly is. This may sound like some sort of conspiracy theory type stuff but if you take a long hard look at our society today I feel like everyone could agree that our world today isn’t ‘working’ anymore. How can I overcome this? I’m feeling more nihilistic everyday, almost to the point where I don’t feel like I care if I live or die. I’m not afraid of death and I don’t want to kill myself but the society I live in is one I do not condone and don’t want to be a part of anymore. Any advice?? Thank you as always for your work.

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    • Aletheia says

      May 17, 2016 at 10:45 am

      I agree purplelephant. The society we live in is deeply flawed and corrupted. “It’s no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a sick society” said a wise man. And the more you dig, the more despairing you become of it all. My advice is to see the humor in it: it’s one big charade! That is why people are so attracted to figures such as The Joker and his nihilism — innately we know that there is something deeply skewed with our way of life. So learn to laugh at it and know that it won’t last this way forever. Also, it helps to stop digging so deep into society and its flaws. The more you dig, the more depressing stuff you find. It seems to be better just to make peace with the fact that our society is f*cked. But also find hope in knowing that nothing lasts forever, and we can only do our best now.

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